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doctorarcane
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« on: December 16, 2020, 11:56:57 AM »

On the torrent home page, there's an alphabetized list of categories down the left side of genres links.
I'm hoping you can add "Urban Fantasy" to the list please.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2021, 05:43:03 AM »

This wouldn't be a bad addition, as the subgenre is becoming more and more popular over these past few years. Perhaps worth considering for the powers that be.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2021, 04:53:09 AM »

I tried making the request more directly to the global mods, but they haven't bothered to reply to neither this one or the more private one, so I don't know if it'll ever happen.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 02:46:18 AM »

Hi Lieve, doctorarcane,

We've gotten requests for sub-genres like this a lot over the years. In actual practice, the more genres/categories we have the more difficult it becomes to find books...when sorting by genre. There are so many cross-genre books that it gets confusing or difficult for uploaders to choose and if we did, you'd have to search them all anyway. To avoid that we decided to keep it as simple as possible. Uploaders can choose two categories to list in, plus "modifiers" and add key words for search.

Paranormal is the best places to look for Urban Fantasy. All of the UF books that I've posted over the years are in Paranormal.

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 03:11:23 AM »

Paranormal is the best places to look for Urban Fantasy. All of the UF books that I've posted over the years are in Paranormal.

Yes, I don't see any practical difference between  "paranormal" and "urban fantasy".
It's like "Country" and "Western". 


There are currently over 6600 torrents in "Paranormal"
https://audiobookbay.lu/audio-books/type/paranormal/
and the vast majority would equally be called "urban fantasy".
Starting a new category would just mean people would have to search both for their sparkly vampires and shapeshifting hermaphrodite fixes.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 04:17:16 AM »

Well I don't see any practical difference between Science Fiction and "Doctor Who", but that's on there.

And LitRPG can be both science fiction and fantasy, but just setting it to those (often both) doesn't narrow down the genre for people who are interested in those kinds of books.

And as Pamar pointed out elsewhere, it would be appreciated with a GraphicAudio pick somewhere so it's easier to search for those versions specifically.

But I guess it is what it is..
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 02:46:47 AM »

Well I don't see any practical difference between Science Fiction and "Doctor Who", but that's on there.
"Doctor Who" isn't "different, it's a subgenre of SF, with an established and rabid fanbase, while many SF fans aren't interested in it at all, and would rather not have it dominate the SF listings. 
"(Post)apocalyptic" is another subgenre that is large and fairly distinct, so it got its own category.

But I still cannot see an obvious distinction between paranormal and urban fantasy, one that uploaders and readers would understand and use.

And LitRPG can be both science fiction and fantasy, but just setting it to those (often both) doesn't narrow down the genre for people who are interested in those kinds of books.
And as Pamar pointed out elsewhere, it would be appreciated with a GraphicAudio pick somewhere so it's easier to search for those versions specifically.
But I guess it is what it is.

LitRPG has its own  category already, so I don't know what you are complaining about.
https://audiobookbay.lu/audio-books/type/litrpg/ About 1090 torrents

And you can search for Graphic Audio using simple search and/or using keywords, since many uploaders use that tag.
search: https://audiobookbay.lu/?s=graphic+audio&cat=undefined%2Cundefined  780 results
keyword: https://audiobookbay.lu/audio-books/tag/graphic-audio/  1250 results

Anyway, any search by description or category depends on the uploader inputting the information, and it is a sad fact that many uploaders are slapdash at best about that. You'll miss a lot of books if you search by metadata only.

Far the better strategy is to follow fan sites and then come here and search for new titles by name, or periodically search for authors you like. Or follow uploaders who share your taste.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 06:05:45 AM »

LitRPG has its own  category already, so I don't know what you are complaining about.
https://audiobookbay.lu/audio-books/type/litrpg/ About 1090 torrents
Well that's on me. I honestly never noticed that one. Then again I never upload LitRPG's. Anyway, it's the same argument as Urban fantasy, as is Doctor Who. It just narrows in the search. I know of a lot of the so called Cozy mystery books that have paranormal elements in them, but wouldn't be classified as Urban Fantasy.

"Doctor Who" isn't "different, it's a subgenre of SF, with an established and rabid fanbase
Same thing goes for GraphicAudio though. Exact same argument. People go wild for GraphicAudio versions on here. But sure, you can search for the term GraphicAudio or Graphic Audio, but the same can be done for Doctor Who, and there's a lot less books in that subgenre, than is in GraphicAudio.

It's not really 100% needed, but it would just be nice to have a more specific choice. I mean it's right there in the request forum, so it's not like people didn't recognize it was a heavily requested subgenre.

I've long since resigned myself to search for multiple parameters, such as author, title, series name, narrator, or a combination of all those. But I doubt very much everyone does that.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 06:48:38 AM »

Well that's on me. I honestly never noticed that one. Then again I never upload LitRPG's. Anyway, it's the same argument as Urban fantasy, as is Doctor Who. It just narrows in the search.
No, it is not the same.
"Urban fantasy " is already a category. It's under the link labelled "Paranormal".
If you can draw a line between these that all uploaders and prospective downloaders would follow, go ahead.

I know of a lot of the so called Cozy mystery books that have paranormal elements in them, but wouldn't be classified as Urban Fantasy.
Or you could equally say they have urban fantasy elements.
A witch who solves crime is urban fantasy. That's what Dresden is all about.

If uploader thinks that "Mystery" is the dominant category, that's fine.

But sure, you can search for the term GraphicAudio or Graphic Audio
So, problem solved.

Also, on a strategic level, I think it a bad idea to have a category named for a publisher.
That is really spitting in their face. It could be construed as the site actively encouraging people to pirate that company.
That's why we have "Doctor Who" category but not "Big Finish".

And we have "Full Cast" which covers both of those styles of production.
Might encourage some to broaden their reading a little.

Again, all moot if the uploader can't be bothered to use them.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2021, 02:45:09 AM »

Ya Graphic Audio is a type of recording. It's not even a Genre.

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Starting a new category would just mean people would have to search both for their sparkly vampires and shapeshifting hermaphrodite fixes.

As G said, the uploader decides the category. The more choices you give them the more opportunity for their definition of the category and the book, to not align with yours. I've seen books of-a-series listed under SF, Fantasy and Adventure. If searching by category, all searches would be missing books....You can't trust categories.

If you like I'll see about changing "Paranormal" to "Urban Fantasy\Paranormal"

Since uploaders can only choose two categories, they can select "Romance" + "Urban Fantasy\Paranormal" for the more romantic sort. Or they can choose "Horror" + "Urban Fantasy\Paranormal" for the spooky stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2021, 06:21:50 AM »

Closing this ticket.

The ABB webside staff has rejected this change.

"We do appreciate and consider each request."

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